Safari gripes

Today I came across a painful "feature" of Safari that I'm willing to call a bug as it is the most annoying one I have found on this otherwise excellent browser that has become my browser of choice since almost its first day of public light.

Selecting a bookmark folder set as "Auto-tab" will replace any already open tabs. I just lost ten tabs I kept for writing an article. This is, to remain polite, a very stupid UI choice. Add to that the lack of a way to save open tabs (very useful in situations when you really need to quit the browser, or when you are about to quit and forgot about open tabs), and clearly the user experience regarding tab-browsing on Safari (something I'm now highly addicted to) has room for improvement.

This grabs the first place to the now second most annoying UI behavior: the habit of Safari to constantly change the window height when showing or hiding control bars (tabs, status, bookmarks)*. This is particularly annoying for me as I always maximize the window height and find myself constantly re-maximizing it just because I closed the penultima tab and the window shrunk. The reason why I find this stupid is that -- to the exception of the tabs bar which does it by itself -- I close those bars to gain browsing space, I therefore don't want to see Safari reclaim that space only to force me to maximize the window again. The behavior I expect is: don't change the window height at all!

And the last gripe I have is actually a plug-in bug I already mentioned: the propensity of Safari to stop loading pages once it reaches some QuickTime and Flash movies.

Sorry for the rant, but loosing one hour of web digging because of Auto-tabs made me really angry. A long time ago I was almost used to loose data when an Office application decided to crash every other hour and take the whole system with it, now that I'm back to the stability of Unix, I just don't expect an Apple application to thrown away my data by design!

[Update] (*) This has been corrected in Safari 1.2 (v125) which no longer changes the window size when adding or removing toolbars.


i ran into that "feature"'s very very annoying. One more reason out of many that i use Mozilla as my default browser instead...ugly tabs and all. :/

I see the same tabs behavior in Firebird.

> I see the same tabs behavior in Firebird

Slightly differently and less annoyingly whit respect to tabs. I use it everyday because our corporate webmail is too badly coded that it doesn't work with Safari and happens to "fail to fail" in Firebird. When you close the penultima tab in Firebird, it maintains the tab bar and doesn't modify the window height.

Sorry, I meant the "overwrite open tabs" behavior.

The other I never see in Safari because I have it set to always display the tab bar. I did that because I also found the constant growing/shrinking to be annoying.

I had the same problem, once. And I was delighted (after spending ten seconds cursing) to see that clicking on BACK restores the window to its previous state ! I mean closing all the newly opened tabs and re-opening all the previously opened tabs !
Too bad I tell you that too late…
What annoys me big time is the intelligent behaviour that Safari had and that was changed for a dumb one : it used to be more clever when you clicked on the bookmarks management icon at the left of the Bookmarks Bar, you could return directly to whetever tab you wanted by cliking on this tab. Now you have to click on the icon again and then choose the tab you want. This is stupid and counter-productive ! Give me back the clever bookmark management system !

> clicking on BACK restores the window to its previous state

!@#ç§!! Too late :(.

But many thanks for the tip, it'll save me next time.

thanks and google kick ass